tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571146151683416940.post1869866417649339355..comments2024-03-16T10:05:23.129-07:00Comments on LA Quaker: William Penn and the IndiansLA Quakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11084465501021443492noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571146151683416940.post-11948897951091024832014-10-17T11:44:23.972-07:002014-10-17T11:44:23.972-07:00Your blog starts off on the wrong foot. Pilgrims (...Your blog starts off on the wrong foot. Pilgrims (who founded Plymouth) are not Puritans (who found Mass Bay). "For the true story of the Pilgrims and Indians from an Indian perspective, see" http://www.sail1620.org/history/articles/121-looks-anew-thanksgiving.html<br />JMSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571146151683416940.post-21079367566981023862011-06-19T19:50:11.429-07:002011-06-19T19:50:11.429-07:00Thanks, Tony. I have found it remarkable that Edw...Thanks, Tony. I have found it remarkable that Edward Hicks saw the true relationship between the invaders and the first Americans in the note he wrote on many of his Peaceable Kingdoms:<br />"The wolf did with the lambkin dwell in peace<br />His grim carnivorous nature there did cease<br />The leopard with the harmless kid laid down<br />And not one savage beast was seen to frown<br />The lion with the fatling on did move<br />A little child was leading them in love;<br />When the great PENN his famous treaty made<br />With indian chiefs beneath the Elm-tree's shade."<br />In each case, a natural aggressor is paired with a natural victim, the aggressor always being mentioned before the victim. So the relationship between English colonists and Indians is that the colonists ("the great PENN," mentioned first) are the natural aggressors and the Indians the victims (mentioned second). The history of the relationship between the Jamestown colonists and their first American hosts also bears this out.<br />--Louis LeFevre, PYM Indian CommitteeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571146151683416940.post-86242110774727091542010-11-27T14:31:25.794-08:002010-11-27T14:31:25.794-08:00John Ruth just gave a lecture entitled "Willi...John Ruth just gave a lecture entitled "William Penn: The Dream and the Disappointment" to Mennonites in Lancaster and Montgomery counties here in PA. He spoke of "dream paintings"- notably Edward Hicks' "Peaceable Kingdom"- but others as well, including the wampum belt given to Penn with a Quaker and a native holding hands (it was the native's dream). He also spoke of those (some Quaker) who took advantage of Penn and caused his native friends to wait with great expectation for his return, which never came.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571146151683416940.post-69797865354541058752010-11-27T10:04:47.726-08:002010-11-27T10:04:47.726-08:00It is difficult to see my grandchildren being taug...It is difficult to see my grandchildren being taught the falsehood of peaceful relations between the Puritans and Native Americans. How do I keep the history accurate when their school teachers do not want to hear the "real story" and most likely do not know the truth themselves. These myths do us no good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com