tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571146151683416940.post3669093830087803433..comments2024-03-16T10:05:23.129-07:00Comments on LA Quaker: Is the "Lord of the Dance" pagan?LA Quakerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11084465501021443492noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571146151683416940.post-36605717240045691932019-07-10T04:53:07.237-07:002019-07-10T04:53:07.237-07:00I have always loved the image of the Dance,thanks ...I have always loved the image of the Dance,thanks for sharing . <a href="tschool719@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">Tansen Sangeet Mahavidhyalaya | kathak classes near me | 8010775775</a><br />Tansen sangeet mahavidhyalayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00325903715744553166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571146151683416940.post-71886227550993548332016-08-27T11:29:45.026-07:002016-08-27T11:29:45.026-07:00Thank you for this piece. I have always loved the ...Thank you for this piece. I have always loved the image of the Dance, and the words clearly need to be changed. <br /><br />In my Presbyterian Sunday School in the 1950's I was clearly taught that Jesus was killed by Roman soldiers as ordered by Pontius Pilate, not by any part of the Jewish community (neither the lowly fishermen nor the upper echelons of the Jewish hierarchy). Re-reading Sydney Carter's lyrics carefully I do see inaccuracy and confusion about who killed Jesus. <br /><br />Anti-Semitism isn't dead. It is important to avoid any language that might lead to any impression of "the Jews" as the killers of Jesus. Even when using "holy people" (which as a Protestant child I thought meant the religious hierarchs) that implication could easily be drawn.<br /> <br />_Worship in Song: a Friends Hymnal_ has a footnote saying "'They' refers to the authorities responsible for the crucifixion, mainly the Romans." That's nice, but a footnote does not alter the fault in the lyrics. The editors of _Worship in Song_ suggested changes in many references to gender in the hymns they published; "Lord of the Dance" too should be changed, not merely footnoted.<br /><br />The point of the song is the sacred dance that still goes on. Change it. I do not think Sydney Carter would mind. (And even if he would mind...we should change it.) Rachel Findleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571146151683416940.post-11303321482678236662016-08-17T14:36:29.567-07:002016-08-17T14:36:29.567-07:00I hear your concern and share it. The fact is tha...I hear your concern and share it. The fact is that the Romans tortured and killed Jesus, with the complicity and approval of some segment of the Jewish population in Jerusalem. So how could a song reflect this reality? What wording would you consider preferable? I ask this in all seriousness because Quakers have often altered the words of hymns to make them more acceptable. LA Quakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11084465501021443492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571146151683416940.post-59338716196385051082016-08-10T14:11:29.477-07:002016-08-10T14:11:29.477-07:00in fact some Quakers, particularly Jewish ones, st...in fact some Quakers, particularly Jewish ones, still find the offending verse not ambiguous but treacherously easy to use to point the finger at some Jews, and ergo to all. "The holy people" being a phrase Moses uses to describe the Children of Israel, blaming them for hanging Jesus is not an acceptable way of saying the Sadducees, or the High Priest who had sold out to the invaders, the Romans. This complaint has been around for >30 years and is still awaiting people to hear it.pablo pazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00298824969293362195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571146151683416940.post-48110447787930088142016-08-10T08:13:42.184-07:002016-08-10T08:13:42.184-07:00Anthony, Thanks for this intriguing background on ...Anthony, Thanks for this intriguing background on "Lord of the Dance."<br /><br />Fascinating. I first heard the festive song when I attended Quaker meeting in downtown Philadelphia back in the fall of 1967--the best and worst of times.Daniel Wilcoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05178375087492786696noreply@blogger.com